Still Wandering

ELIAS: In this, there are several factors that are involved. Yes, there is actually an increase in individuals that are choosing to experience this reality in a different capacity; not in the capacity that you have generally been accustomed to. And it is increasing. I would express that 100 of your years ago there were not a fraction of individuals that expressed these differences, as there are now.

TYLER: Wow.

ELIAS: Now, partially, that is related to this shift, in the capacity of individuals choosing to experience this reality from a slightly different angle. But, as I expressed, there are several facets to this. There are also individuals that are expressing in a different manner; one that you would more identify, or express, as "not being normal," or "being different from normal," and even being expressing a dysfunction, in your terms. They are not entirely dysfunctional in the manner that you think. Your medical sciences of psychology are quick to label them…

TYLER: Sure.

ELIAS: …as being dysfunctioned, but in a different capacity from what they actually are.

This is…other than the individuals that are choosing to experience this reality from a slightly different angle – and therefore those individuals would actually be expressing different chemical interactions; different physiological expressions than individuals that you perceive to be normal. But there are also many other expressions that are occurring that are related to this shift in relation to trauma and the development of dysfunction and difficulties with individuals, for they are participating in this shift, but they may not necessarily understand what they are participating in. And therefore that creates difficulties, and it can create trauma for individuals, for they are expressing what YOU view as dysfunction.

It also is a matter of individuals not understanding the process of moving into the unfamiliar, and moving into expressions of genuine self. And therefore, the expressions of genuine self can easily be distorted. Even individuals that interact with myself, or connect with the information that I offer, do this. They distort it. And in that, they do not understand what they are experiencing, and therefore they attempt to fit their experience into some type of explanation that is familiar to them.There is an increase in violent behavior. In this, that stems from individuals not understanding what they are experiencing. In some capacities, allowing themselves to express, in a distorted manner, some aspects of what may be close to a genuine expression, but may not necessarily be acceptable in terms of society.

TYLER: Sure.

ELIAS: It creates a conflict within the individual, and it creates tension, and frustration. And that tension, in turn, in many, many situations and individuals, creates anxiety. And the anxiety gives way, so to speak, to behaviors that are destructive, or that are, what you would term to be, unacceptable or inappropriate. For the individuals do not understand what they are experiencing, and therefore they also do not understand how to manage and direct themselves.

TYLER: So would you say that a lot of these actions, or expressions, from these people are more reactions to an energy within themselves that they don't understand?

ELIAS: Oh, most definitely.

TYLER: Okay. So…

ELIAS: I would express that this is very common.

TYLER: Sure.

ELIAS: For they do not understand what they are doing. But, in some capacities, they are generating a distorted form of a genuine expression, which is confusing to them, for it is expressing impulses. They generate impulses to express, but what their impulse is influencing them to express is not necessarily condoned or accepted in societies. Therefore, that generates a conflict.

TYLER: Sure.

ELIAS: And it creates confusion, for the individual becomes blurred in relation to duplicity.

TYLER: Hm.

ELIAS: But, the impulse may be strong, for regardless whether individuals have this information or not, they are shifting. And therefore, all that YOU do, in becoming more aware, and all that you may be noticing in yourself – in changes in preferences, changes in impulses, changes in what you do, and what you choose – they are doing also. They merely may not necessarily understand what they are doing.

TYLER: Sure.

ELIAS: And therefore, it manifests in behaviors that are deemed to be `not normal.' And as that increases, your physicians pay attention, and they notice that this is increasing, and they begin to develop more labels for inappropriate behavior and attempt to discover modifications for that.

TYLER: (chuckles)

ELIAS: What they do not understand, anymore than the individuals that are expressing it, is that it is not a matter of behavior modification, it is a matter of becoming more self-aware, and therefore being aware of choices. These individuals are not aware that they incorporate choices. They ARE reacting. And in that, they do not know what they are reacting to, and therefore they also do not recognize that they even have choices.

TYLER: And I guess… I mean, the big issue comes…with people dealing with individuals like this, would be that they can be seen as a danger to, possibly others, but more likely themselves…

ELIAS: Correct.

TYLER: …at least physically.

ELIAS: Yes.

TYLER: And so, I think that's where we kind of stumble; we don't know how to deal with that.

ELIAS: I agree, for your automatic response –or reaction – to their reaction, is to stop them, and to fix them. And in that, the concept of `fixing' is so very convoluted, for it presupposes that there is some broken element, or some broken facet of these individuals; which there is not! And in that, modifying, or attempting to modify the individuals is also not helpful, for it discounts what they are expressing, and it does not offer them information and explanation.

TYLER: So…

ELIAS: Therefore, it merely holds them in a situation of confusion and a lack of information, in which they are no more aware of themselves than they were before.

TYLER: So would you say that Ginger's reaction…or, not even a reaction… just her expression towards… she told me a story of a woman who was constantly screaming out of her room, in the hospital… uh, some things she would say would be, you know, calling out for someone; someone's name. And at first Ginger wasn't doing anything. She was just kind of ignoring it, but it became a little annoying to Ginger. So Ginger decided to respond to her… when she would call a name, Ginger would say, `That person's not here,' and that would actually shut the person up for a little while (laughs)… until they had, say, another impulse… Would you say that…

ELIAS: Yes.

TYLER: …that response was more helpful than trying to stop them?

ELIAS: Yes, I would agree.

TYLER: Okay.

ELIAS: I would also express that what can be considerably helpful in these situations is to actually stop and WITNESS the individual, for that is one factor that many of these individuals crave. They are not being witnessed. They are being pushed aside. And therefore, they are not being acknowledged.

TYLER: Hm.

ELIAS: And in that, this expression – this desire – in your physical reality, to be witnessed, is VERY strong. And the reason it is so very strong is very purposeful, for this is the manner in which you objectively physically express interconnection with each other. And when you are not witnessed, you feel disconnected.

TYLER: I just had a…

ELIAS: This…

TYLER: Can I interrupt for a second?

ELIAS: Yes.

TYLER: I just had a funny thought. I thought of a, uh, telephone commercial's…uh, a telephone company's commercial, um, where the guy's on the phone and he says, "Can you hear me now?" And he's going around the world "Can you hear me now?"

I had this thought that, say, before the beginning, when we were experimenting with physical reality, it was more like a "Can you SEE me now?" and that was a good thing…

ELIAS: Yes.

TYLER: (chuckles)

ELIAS: Yes!

TYLER: So that's why we want to be witnessed, because we wanted to be able to see each other.

ELIAS: Yes!

TYLER: Yeah.

ELIAS: For this is your physical objective expression of the acknowledgment of interconnectedness; which you all are! But as you occupy a physical reality, in which a part of the blueprint is an expression of separation, it is important to generate an avenue – or a method, so to speak – to express that interconnectedness… to feel that interconnectedness, and to recognize it. And how you do that, is through acknowledgement. And how you acknowledge, is by witnessing each other.

"I actually genuinely see you."

TYLER: That I understand.

ELIAS: "Not only with my sense of sight. I SEE you. I acknowledge your presence, and your connection to me; and mine to you."

But that has… been…very much pushed aside.

TYLER: I was going to say that; ignored.

It is very similar to what I have expressed in other situations, in relation to individuals that are experiencing depression, or are expressing anxiety to a point of being suicidal, or an individual that is either the victim or the perpetrator in violent situations. In any of these situations, attempting to disagree with the individual merely reinforces them.

TYLER: Sure.

ELIAS: For they are already confused, and discounting themselves, and feeling disconnected. Therefore, when you disagree with them that merely reinforces all of those expressions that they are already generating. When an individual expresses, "I am worthless!" and you express, "No you are not," you are disagreeing with them, and you are invalidating them.

TYLER: Hm. What a conundrum. (laughs)

ELIAS: In that, the most effective direction to engage is not necessarily to agree, but to merely acknowledge. It is not necessary for you to agree with them…

TYLER: Sure.

ELIAS: …you may actually genuinely disagree, but to not express that disagreement; to acknowledge and to validate what they are expressing. If the woman is calling and sweeping for another individual, what may be more effective than to express that individual is not present, would perhaps be to inquire of this woman, "Where did you last encounter this person?"

TYLER: Okay.

ELIAS: For that acknowledges that the individual is expressing in a valid manner. They are missing another individual. They are searching for the other individual. They are feeling disconnected and confused. And in that, feeling alone, and are attempting to connect with some familiar expression that will be comforting to them. Therefore, acknowledging them – not by expressing the individual is not present…

TYLER: Sure.

ELIAS: …but acknowledging what they are doing. They are calling for. Very well, "Where did you encounter this individual last?" … "What do you think the individual is doing?"… "How do you think I can contact the individual with you?" Not FOR you… with you. In that, regardless of whether you intend to contact another individual or not –that is not the point – the point is engaging this individual in the moment, in what they are doing, and witnessing them, acknowledging them, validating them. Which changes their energy, for that is what they want. With this woman, who she wants to connect with, may actually change and become unimportant, if she is allowed to be witnessed and be connecting with whomever is engaging her. For that is what the desire is.

ELIAS: Yes!

TYLER: Sure.

ELIAS: In this, what they are expressing is a tremendous discounting of themself, in many different capacities, for their perception is that they are failing in the action of connecting, and they do not know how to do it. And therefore, they feel isolated; they feel that they have no choices; they feel powerless.

But if they are being witnessed – if they are being acknowledged – they are being reinforced that they are being seen; they are not alone; and perhaps there IS encouragement. And it expresses to them, in energy, "No you are not entirely failing, for you are connecting with me."

TYLER: (slightly in tears) Makes me kind of emotional thinking that more people don't do that. That it is kind of ignored and pushed aside.

ELIAS: I would agree.

TYLER: (chuckles)

ELIAS: It is unfortunate, but as I have expressed it is also, in your terms, a side-effect of this shift.

TYLER: Sure.

ELIAS: And I have expressed from the onset…there will be trauma.

TYLER: Sure.

ELIAS: And in that, you all eventually will emerge. And you will be aware.

But, I would express that for those of you that are actively seeking and incorporating information, and becoming more aware, and expanding yourselves in that, it is also a matter of all of you recognizing that you are interconnected with all of these other individuals also. Therefore, what you do ripples outward contributing to whether that trauma and that epidemic, so to speak, of trauma, is perpetuated or whether it is lessened.

TYLER: Makes sense. (chuckles)

ELIAS: (chuckles)

TYLER: We all have our part. (chuckles)

ELIAS: Yes, you do.